IS JESUS GOD?

Introduction

Is Jesus really God? Or was he just a man? That’s the 64 zillion dollar question, isn’t it? There are many people who believe that Jesus was (and still is) God with absolute certainty, and no matter what you say, no matter how rational or compelling your arguments may be, they will never waver in that belief. But there are many people who believe that Jesus was just a man with absolute certainty, and no matter what you say, no matter how rational or compelling your arguments may be, they will never waver in that belief. How can people be so certain of opposite answers? Who is right? Can they all be right?
So, is Jesus God? My answer is, to be brief, “Yes and no.” Yes, they are all right. And no, they are all wrong. I believe that Jesus was God… in a sense. I suppose I should explain what I mean.
First, let me make it clear that I do believe in the doctrines of 1) the Christ, Jesus was the Jewish messiah, 2) the Gospel, Jesus died to atone for my sins, and 3) the “dinity,” the Father and the Holy Spirit are one God in two persons. The only thing I’m questioning on this page is whether Jesus, too, is God.

Evidence that Jesus is God

There is no doubt in my mind that the disciples/apostles believed that Jesus is God.
No one has ever seen God, but the one and only Son, who is himself God… John 1:18x
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For in Christ all the fullness of the Deity lives in bodily form… Colossians 2:9
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… our God… Jesus Christ… II Peter 1:1y,y
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Thomas said to [Jesus], “My Lord and my God!” John 20:28
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… our great God…, Jesus Christ… Titus 2:13y,z
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Also, we know that Jesus said and did things that caused other people to believe he was God, and he never disagreed with them when they did.
Thomas said to him [Jesus], “My Lord and my God!” Then Jesus told him, “Because you have seen me, you have believed…” John 20:28-29x
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But Jesus never actually said, in clear and unequivocal terms, “I am God.” I challenge anyone to find a place in the Bible that reports Jesus plainly stating that he was God.

The Son of God

Many people claimed that Jesus was “the son of God.”
Then those who were in the boat [the disciples] worshiped him [Jesus], saying, “Truly you are the Son of God.” Matthew 14:33
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Simon Peter answered [Jesus], “You are… the Son of the living God.” Matthew 16:16x,z
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Then Nathanael declared, “Rabbi, you [Jesus] are the Son of God; you are the king of Israel.” John 1:49
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At once he [Saul] began to preach in the synagogues that Jesus is the Son of God. Acts 9:20
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… the Son of God, Jesus Christ… II Corinthians 1:19y
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… who through the Spirit of holiness was appointed the Son of God in power by his resurrection from the dead: Jesus Christ our Lord. Romans 1:4z
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God is faithful, who has called you into fellowship with his Son, Jesus Christ our Lord. I Corinthians 1:9
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Praise be to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ… Ephesians 1:3x
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Praise be to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ… II Corinthians 1:3x
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We always thank God, the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ… Colossians 1:3x
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… you may glorify the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ. Romans 15:6z
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Praise be to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ! I Peter 1:3x
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… his Son Jesus Christ. He is the true God and eternal life. I John 5:20z
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The beginning of the good news about Jesus…, the Son of God… Mark 1:1x,z
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… Jesus is the Messiah, the Son of God… John 20:31y
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… Jesus the Son of God… Hebrews 4:14y
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“Yes, Lord,” she [Martha] replied [to Jesus], “I believe that you are the Messiah, the Son of God, who is to come into the world.” John 11:27
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Whenever the impure spirits saw him [Jesus], they fell down before him and cried out, “You are the Son of God.” Mark 3:11
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Moreover, demons came out of many people, shouting, “You [Jesus] are the Son of God!” Luke 4:41
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“What do you [Jesus] want with us, Son of God?” [two demon-possessed men] shouted. Matthew 8:29x
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[A man with an impure spirit] shouted…, “What do you want with me, Jesus, Son of the Most High God?…” Mark 5:7x,y
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… [a demon-possessed man] cried out…, “What do you want with me, Jesus, Son of the Most High God?…” Luke 8:28y,y
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And when the centurion, who stood there in front of Jesus, saw how he died, he said, “Surely this man was the Son of God!” Mark 15:39
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… the centurion and those with him… exclaimed, “Surely he [Jesus] was the Son of God!” Matthew 27:54y,z
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The angel answered, “… the holy one to be born [Jesus] will be called the Son of God.” Luke 1:35x,z
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And a voice from heaven said, “This [Jesus] is my Son…” Matthew 3:17x
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… a voice from the cloud said, “This [Jesus] is my Son…” Matthew 17:5y
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So, the disciples, the apostles, the Gospel writers, the author of Hebrews, Martha, demons, a Roman centurion (a gentile), an angel, and even a voice from above claimed that Jesus was the son of God. And people reported that Jesus had called himself the son of God:
The Jewish leaders insisted, “… he [Jesus] claimed to be the Son of God.” John 19:7x,z
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In the same way the chief priests, the teachers of the law and the elders mocked him [Jesus]. “… he said, ‘I am the Son of God.’” Matthew 27:41,43z
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However, the Bible doesn’t report any time when Jesus actually told these people that he was the son of God. Oh, he certainly implied it:
The high priest said to him, “… Tell us if you are the Messiah, the Son of God.” “You have said so,” Jesus replied. Matthew 26:63y,z-64x
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At daybreak the council of the elders of the people, both the chief priests and the teachers of the law, met together, and Jesus was led before them… They all asked, “Are you then the Son of God?” He replied, “You say that I am.” Luke 22:66,70
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Then Nathanael declared, “Rabbi, you [Jesus] are the Son of God; you are the king of Israel.” Jesus said, “You believe because I told you I saw you under the fig tree. You will see greater things than that.” I John:49-50
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Simon Peter answered [Jesus], “You are the Messiah, the Son of the living God.” Jesus replied, “Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah, for this was not revealed to you by flesh and blood, but by my Father in heaven…” Matthew 16:16-17
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But Jesus never actually used the phrase “son of God” to refer to himself. However, he did call God his father.
After Jesus said this, he looked toward heaven and prayed: “Father, the hour has come. Glorify your Son, that your Son may glorify you… I have brought you glory on earth by finishing the work you gave me to do. And now, Father, glorify me in your presence…” John 17:1x,4-5x
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But was Jesus really saying he was God? Is the son of God equivalent to God? Well, look at what Luke said:
… the son of Enosh, the son of Seth, the son of Adam, the son of God. Luke 3:38
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So Adam, Seth, Enosh, and other humans were also sons (or descendants) of God. And I don’t think anybody would claim that they were God in the flesh. And anyway, the following verses say that all of us are children of God. After all, we call Him “Father”.
So in Christ Jesus you are all children of God through faith… Galatians 3:26
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… we might receive adoption to sonship… you are his sons… So you are… God’s child… Galatians 4:5z,6y,7x,y
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For those who are led by the Spirit of God are the children of God… the Spirit you received brought about your adoption to sonship. And by him we cry, “Abba, Father.” The Spirit himself testifies with our spirit that we are God’s children. Romans 8:14,15z-16
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Grace and peace to you from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ… Galatians 1:3
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Grace and peace to you from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ. Praise be to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ… he predestined us for adoption to sonship… Ephesians 1:2-3x,5x
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To God’s holy people in Colossae, the faithful brothers and sisters in Christ: Grace and peace to you from God our Father. Colossians 1:2
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“Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called children of God… But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, that you may be children of your Father in heaven.” Matthew 5:9,44-45x
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And Jesus calls humans his siblings.
Both the one who makes people holy and those who are made holy are of the same family. So Jesus is not ashamed to call them brothers and sisters. Hebrews 2:11
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Pointing to his disciples, he said, “Here are my mother and my brothers.” Matthew 12:49
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Then he looked at those seated in a circle around him and said, “Here are my mother and my brothers!” Mark 3:34
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“Oh,” you say, “but we’re adopted children of God. Jesus is the begotten son of God.”
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. John 3:16
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Actually, that’s a translator’s interpretation. The Greek word in the original version means “only child”. And anyway, that verse was written by John, not Jesus, and I already said I agree that the apostles believed Jesus was God.
So what did Jesus really mean when he claimed to be the son of God? Well, he explained in John, chapter 10.
Jesus answered them, “Is it not written in your Law, ‘I have said you are “gods”’? If he called them ‘gods,’ to whom the word of God came — and Scripture cannot be set aside — what about the one whom the Father set apart as his very own and sent into the world? Why then do you accuse me of blasphemy because I said, ‘I am God’s Son’? Do not believe me unless I do the works of my Father. But if I do them, even though you do not believe me, believe the works, that you may know and understand that the Father is in me, and I in the Father.” John 10:34-38
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So, when Jesus called himself “the son of God”, he didn’t mean that he was God.

In

Jesus used the word “in” in an unusual way:
[Jesus said to his Father,] “… you are in me and I am in you.” John 17:21y
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Some would say that, when Jesus says that he is in his Father, he is saying that he and the Father are equivalent. Therefore, since the Father is God, that means Jesus is also God. But there are other times that he uses the word “in” between people:
[Jesus said,] “On that day you [the disciples] will realize that I am in my Father, and you are in me, and I am in you.” John 14:20
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[Jesus said,] “May they [my believers] also be in us [me and my Father]…” John 17:21y
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So Jesus said that he is in his disciples, and they are in him. Does this mean that Jesus and the disciples are equivalent? I don’t think so. So then what does he mean by “in”? He answered that question. See below.

One

Jesus uses the word “one” in an unusual way.
[Jesus said,] “I and the Father are one.” John 10:30
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[Jesus said to his Father,] “… we are one.” John 17:11z
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[Jesus said to his Father,] “… we are one…” John 17:22z
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Some would say that, when Jesus said that he and his Father are one, he was saying that he and the Father are equivalent. And, since the Father is God, therefore Jesus is also God. However, there are other times he says that different people are “one”:
[Jesus said to his Father,] “… they [my believers] may be one as we are one…” John 17:22z
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[Jesus said,] “… I pray also for those who will believe in me through their [my disciples’] message, that all of them may be one…” John 17:20z-21x
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[Jesus said to his Father,] “… they [those You have given me] may be one as we are one.” John 17:11z
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So Jesus said that his believers can be “one”. Does this mean that they would all be equivalent? I don’t think so. So what did he mean when he said that different people are “one”? Well, he answered that question for us:
[Jesus said to his Father,] “I have given them [my believers] the glory that you gave me, that they may be one as we are one — I in them and you in me — so that they may be brought to complete unity.” John 17:22-23x
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So, when Jesus says that A and B are “one” or A is “in” B, he means that A and B are united, not that A and B are equivalent.

The Trinity

What about the trinity?
For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. I John 5:7
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Now we know that, when John says, “the Word,” he’s referring to Jesus, as can be inferred by what he wrote in the first chapter of his gospel. So this seems to support the doctrine of the trinity. However… let’s compare two translations of this verse, in context.
This is he that came by water and blood, even Jesus Christ; not by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is truth. For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. And there are three that bear witness in earth, the spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one. I John 5:6-8
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This is the one who came by water and blood — Jesus Christ. He did not come by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit who testifies, because the Spirit is the truth. For there are three that testify: the Spirit, the water and the blood; and the three are in agreement. I John 5:6-8
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The underlined sentence in the King James Version, which is known as the Johannine Comma, is completely missing from the New International Version translation. Why is that?
The book, Misquoting Jesus, says, “… the Johannine Comma, … [cannot] be found in the oldest and superior manuscripts of the Greek New Testament.” But much later, in the sixteenth century, Desiderius Erasmus published a version of the Greek New Testament that included the Johannine Comma, and it “…became the standard form of the Greek text to be published by Western European printers for more than three hundred years.” The Johannine Comma is very important, “… since it is the only passage in the entire Bible that explicitly delineates the doctrine of the trinity… Without this verse, the doctrine of the trinity must be inferred from the combination of a variety of passages… This passage, in contrast, states the doctrine directly and succinctly.”
So it seems to me that the apostle John never wrote the Johannine comma. Rather, Jerome, the author of the official Latin translation of the Bible (the Vulgate), added that verse about 300 years after John died. Over the next eleven centuries, the Christian church adopted the doctrine of the trinity based on that single verse.
By the time Erasmus published the Greek standard, the trinity had become such a fundamental part of Christianity that the Johannine Comma had to be included, even though it couldn’t be found in any of the oldest Greek versions of the New Testament. Erasmus’s Bible was then translated to make the King James Version of the Bible. About 300 years later, when it was generally accepted that the Johannine Comma couldn’t be found in any copies of the Greek New Testament that were written before Erasmus made his version, the authors of the New International Version of the Bible decided not to include it, except in a footnote.
The conclusion then is that the Johannine Comma was not written by God, and without it, the doctrine of the trinity becomes very difficult to defend based on the Bible. This suggests that, if it weren’t for Jerome’s creativity, the trinity might never have become a doctrine of Christianity.

The Virgin Birth

Some would say that the fact that Jesus had no father proves that Jesus was God. But I don’t see that. A virgin birth is certainly a miracle, but it doesn’t follow that the child is God in the flesh. Maybe you could convince me that he is a son of God. But I already explained that a son of God is not necessarily the same as God.

Miracles

The Bible records several miracles that Jesus performed.
What Jesus did here in Cana of Galilee [turning water into wine] was the first of the signs through which he revealed his glory… John 2:11x
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This [healing an official’s son] was the second sign Jesus performed… John 4:54x
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One who was there had been an invalid for thirty-eight years… Then Jesus said to him, “Get up! Pick up your mat and walk.” At once the man was cured… John 5:8-9x
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Philip answered him, “It would take more than half a year’s wages to buy enough bread for each one to have a bite!” Another of his disciples, Andrew, Simon Peter’s brother, spoke up, “Here is a boy with five small barley loaves and two small fish, but how far will they go among so many?” Jesus then took the loaves, gave thanks, and distributed to those who were seated as much as they wanted. He did the same with the fish. When they had all had enough to eat, he said to his disciples, “Gather the pieces that are left over. Let nothing be wasted.” So they gathered them and filled twelve baskets with the pieces of the five barley loaves left over by those who had eaten. John 6:7-9,11-13
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… they saw Jesus approaching the boat, walking on the water… John 6:19y
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[Jesus] spit on the ground, made some mud with the saliva, and put it on the man’s eyes. “Go,” he told him, “wash in the Pool of Siloam” (this word means “Sent”). So the man went and washed, and came home seeing. John 9:6z-7
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Jesus called in a loud voice, “Lazarus, come out!” The dead man came out… John 11:43z-44x
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“I’m going out to fish,” Simon Peter told them, and they said, “We’ll go with you.” So they went out and got into the boat, but that night they caught nothing… [Jesus] said, “Throw your net on the right side of the boat and you will find some.” When they did, they were unable to haul the net in because of the large number of fish. John 21:3,6
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However, just because Jesus performed miracles, that doesn’t prove that he is God. After all, the Bible also records several miracles that were performed by mere humans.
Then Moses stretched out his hand over the sea, and all that night the Lord drove the sea back with a strong east wind and turned it into dry land. The waters were divided, and the Israelites went through the sea on dry ground, with a wall of water on their right and on their left. Exodus 14:21-22
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[Joshua said,] “And as soon as the priests who carry the ark of the Lord — the Lord of all the earth — set foot in the Jordan, its waters flowing downstream will be cut off and stand up in a heap.” … as soon as the priests who carried the ark reached the Jordan and their feet touched the water’s edge, the water from upstream stopped flowing. It piled up in a heap a great distance away… Joshua 3:13,15z-16x
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Then Samson prayed to the Lord, “Sovereign Lord, remember me. Please, God, strengthen me just once more, and let me with one blow get revenge on the Philistines for my two eyes.” Then Samson reached toward the two central pillars on which the temple stood. Bracing himself against them, his right hand on the one and his left hand on the other, Samson said, “Let me die with the Philistines!” Then he pushed with all his might, and down came the temple on the rulers and all the people in it. Judges 16:28-30x
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Then [Elijah] cried out to the Lord, “Lord my God, have you brought tragedy even on this widow I am staying with, by causing her son to die?” Then he stretched himself out on the boy three times and cried out to the Lord, “Lord my God, let this boy’s life return to him!” The Lord heard Elijah’s cry, and the boy’s life returned to him, and he lived. I Kings 17:20-22
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At the time of sacrifice, the prophet Elijah stepped forward and prayed: “Lord, the God of Abraham, Isaac and Israel, let it be known today that you are God in Israel and that I am your servant and have done all these things at your command. Answer me, Lord, answer me, so these people will know that you, Lord, are God, and that you are turning their hearts back again.” Then the fire of the Lord fell and burned up the sacrifice, the wood, the stones and the soil, and also licked up the water in the trench. I Kings 18:36-38
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Elijah took his cloak, rolled it up and struck the water with it. The water divided to the right and to the left, and the two of them crossed over on dry ground. II Kings 2:8
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Elisha said, “Go around and ask all your neighbors for empty jars. Don’t ask for just a few. Then go inside and shut the door behind you and your sons. Pour oil into all the jars, and as each is filled, put it to one side.” She left him and shut the door behind her and her sons. They brought the jars to her and she kept pouring. II Kings 4:3-5
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When Elisha reached the house, there was the boy lying dead on his couch. He went in, shut the door on the two of them and prayed to the Lord. Then he got on the bed and lay on the boy, mouth to mouth, eyes to eyes, hands to hands. As he stretched himself out on him, the boy’s body grew warm. Elisha turned away and walked back and forth in the room and then got on the bed and stretched out on him once more. The boy sneezed seven times and opened his eyes. II Kings 4:32-35
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Elisha sent a messenger to say to [Naaman], “Go, wash yourself seven times in the Jordan, and your flesh will be restored and you will be cleansed.” … So he went down and dipped himself in the Jordan seven times, as the man of God had told him, and his flesh was restored and became clean like that of a young boy… But Elisha said to [Gehazi], “Was not my spirit with you when the man got down from his chariot to meet you? Is this the time to take money or to accept clothes — or olive groves and vineyards, or flocks and herds, or male and female slaves? Naaman’s leprosy will cling to you and to your descendants forever.” Then Gehazi went from Elisha’s presence and his skin was leprous — it had become as white as snow. II Kings 5:10,14,26-27
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Elisha died and was buried… Once while some Israelites were burying a man, suddenly they saw a band of raiders; so they threw the man’s body into Elisha’s tomb. When the body touched Elisha’s bones, the man came to life and stood up on his feet. II Kings 13:20x-21
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Now a man who was lame from birth was being carried to the temple gate… Then Peter said, “… In the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, walk.” Taking him by the right hand, he helped him up, and instantly the man’s feet and ankles became strong. He jumped to his feet and began to walk. Then he went with them into the temple courts, walking and jumping, and praising God. Acts 3:2x,6-8
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Turning toward the dead woman, [Peter] said, “Tabitha, get up.” She opened her eyes, and seeing Peter she sat up. Acts 9:40z,6-8
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In Lystra there sat a man who was lame. He had been that way from birth and had never walked… and [Paul] called out, “Stand up on your feet!” At that, the man jumped up and began to walk. Acts 14:8,10
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God did extraordinary miracles through Paul, so that even handkerchiefs and aprons that had touched him were taken to the sick, and their illnesses were cured and the evil spirits left them. Acts 19:11-12
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It is clear to me that all of these miracles were performed by God through men. The men were not actually capable of performing miracles on their own.

I Am

Jesus said, “I am.”
“Very truly I tell you,” Jesus answered, “before Abraham was born, I am!” John 8:58
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Christian theology claims that this means Jesus is God, because God also called himself “I am”.
Moses said to God, “Suppose I go to the Israelites and say to them, ‘The God of your fathers has sent me to you,’ and they ask me, ‘What is his name?’ Then what shall I tell them?” God said to Moses, “I AM WHO I AM. This is what you are to say to the Israelites: ‘I AM has sent me to you.’” Exodus 3:13-14
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But just because a person says the two words, “I am”, that doesn’t mean that he is God. For example, in the chapter immediately following the chapter where Jesus said “I am”, another person said the same thing.
His neighbors and those who had formerly seen him begging asked, “Isn’t this the same man who used to sit and beg?” Some claimed that he was. Others said, “No, he only looks like him.” But he himself insisted, “I am the man.” John 9:8-9
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“But wait,” you say. “This man said, ’I am the man,’ not ’I am,’ like Jesus did.” Well, I’m sorry to tell you, but “the man” is not found in the original Greek. The NIV translators added it. The begging man’s quote in John 9:9 is identical to Jesus’ quote in John 8:58.

Immanuel

An angel said to Joseph:
“The virgin will conceive and give birth to a son, and they will call him [Jesus] Immanuel” (which means “God with us”). Matthew 1:23
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So Jesus is called “God with us,” but that doesn’t mean he is God. Consider that Daniel means “God is my judge” and Samuel means “name of God”, but that doesn’t mean that Daniel and Samuel are God. Just because a person’s name ends in “el” (which means God), that doesn’t mean that the person is God.

Forgiveness of Sins

Matthew, Mark, and Luke all reported the occasion when Jesus forgave the sins of a paralyzed man. Here is Matthew’s account:
… he [Jesus] said to the paralyzed man, “Son, your sins are forgiven.” Now some teachers of the law were sitting there, thinking to themselves, “… Who can forgive sins but God alone?” [Jesus said,] “… I want you to know that the Son of Man has authority on earth to forgive sins.” Mark 2:5z-6,7z,10y
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So you might argue that, if only God can forgive sins, and Jesus has the authority to forgive sins, therefore and thus, Jesus is God. However, the flaw in your proof is in step one. Just because the teachers of the law thought only God can forgive sins, that doesn’t make it true. I don’t think there’s any place in the Bible that says that. However, Jesus himself implied that Peter had the authority to forgive sins:
Then Peter came to Jesus and asked, “Lord, how many times shall I forgive my brother or sister who sins against me? Up to seven times?” Jesus answered, “I tell you, not seven times, but seventy-seven times.” Matthew 18:21-22
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So, unless Peter is also God, humans can have the authority to forgive sins.

Sinless

The Bible says that Jesus never sinned
“[Christ] committed no sin…” I Peter 2:22
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But the Bible also says that all humans sin.
Indeed, there is no one on earth who is righteous, no one who does what is right and never sins. Ecclesiastes 7:20
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If Jesus never sinned and all humans sin, doesn’t that prove that Jesus must be God? Well, actually, I believe that Jesus did sin, and I give some examples here.

Evidence that Jesus was Just a Man

There are several distinct differences between Jesus and the Father (God).
[Jesus said,] “But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.” Matthew 24:36
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Jesus said to them, “… to sit at my right or left is not for me to grant. These places belong to those for whom they have been prepared by my Father.” Matthew 20:23x,z
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[Jesus said,] “… the Father is greater than I.” John 14:28z
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So Jesus and the Father have different knowledge, authority, and greatness.

Also, unlike God, Jesus can be tempted.
… God cannot be tempted… James 1:13y
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For we do not have a high priest who is unable to empathize with our weaknesses, but we have one [Jesus] who has been tempted in every way, just as we are… Hebrews 4:15x
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Another difference between Jesus and God is that God is immortal, but Jesus died.
… the immortal God… Romans 1:23y
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… they came to Jesus and found that he was already dead… John 19:33y
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And Jesus and God can disagree. In Gethsemane, Jesus admitted that they could want contradictory things.
[Jesus said,] “Father, if you are willing, take this cup from me; yet not my will, but yours be done.” Luke 22:42
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“One” more difference between Jesus and God: God is one.
… the Lord is one. Deuteronomy 6:4z
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As I understand it, this means God is indivisible. He cannot be separated in parts. But when Jesus hung on the cross, didn’t he bleed? And if a single drop of blood separated from the rest of his body, he was not indivisible.

God and Jesus

Here are some verses that refer to God and Jesus as if they were different people:
[Jesus said,] “Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent.” John 17:3
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May the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God… II Corinthians 13:14x
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… keep yourselves in God’s love as you wait for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ… Jude 1:21x
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References to God

According to the Gospels, Jesus referred to God in the third person many, many times. If he really was God, why wouldn’t he use first-person pronouns.
“Why do you call me good?” Jesus answered. “No one is good — except God alone…” Luke 18:19
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Jesus couldn’t have meant, “Why do you call me good? No one is good — except me alone…”

Jesus said to them, “If God were your Father, you would love me, for I have come here from God. I have not come on my own; God sent me…” John 8:42
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Did he really mean, “I have come here from [me]… [I] sent me…”?

And there are other examples of Jesus referring to God in the third person:
… Jesus said, "Now the Son of Man is glorified and God is glorified in him.” John 13:31z
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“Have faith in God,” Jesus answered. Mark 11:22
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Then Jesus said to them, “Give back to Caesar what is Caesar’s and to God what is God’s.” Mark 12:17
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[Jesus said,] “Blessed are the pure in heart, for they will see God.” Matthew 5:8
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[Jesus said,] “Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called children of God.” Matthew 5:9
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[Jesus] said, “With man this is impossible, but with God all things are possible.” Matthew 19:26z
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[Jesus said,] “You cannot serve both God and money.” Matthew 6:24z
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“Have faith in God,” Jesus answered. Mark 11:22
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[Jesus said,] “If that is how God clothes the grass of the field, which is here today and tomorrow is thrown into the fire, will he not much more clothe you…” Matthew 6:30x
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[Jesus said,] “He is not the God of the dead but of the living.” Matthew 22:32z
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Jesus turned and said to Peter, “… you do not have in mind the concerns of God, but merely human concerns.” Matthew 16:23x,z
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[Jesus said,] “But at the beginning of creation God ‘made them male and female.’” Mark 10:6
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[Jesus said,] “Therefore what God has joined together, let no one separate.” Mark 10:9
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[Jesus said,] “Whoever does God’s will is my brother and sister and mother.” Mark 3:35
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Jesus sent him away, saying, “Return home and tell how much God has done for you.” Luke 8:38z-39x
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Jesus replied, “And why do you break the command of God for the sake of your tradition? For God said, ‘Honor your father and mother’ …” Matthew 15:3-4x
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[Jesus said,] “… have you not read what God said to you…” Matthew 22:31z
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Jesus replied, “And why do you break the command of God for the sake of your tradition?” Matthew 15:3
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[Jesus said,] “You have let go of the commands of God and are holding on to human traditions.” Mark 7:8
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And [Jesus] continued, “You have a fine way of setting aside the commands of God in order to observe your own traditions!” Mark 7:9
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“But I [Jesus] tell you, do not swear an oath at all: either by heaven, for it is God’s throne; …” Matthew 5:34
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[Jesus said,] “And anyone who swears by heaven swears by God’s throne and by the one who sits on it.” Matthew 23:22
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Jesus replied, “You are in error because you do not know the Scriptures or the power of God.” Matthew 22:29
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[Jesus said,] “Return home and tell how much God has done for you.” Luke 8:39x
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[Jesus said,] “… the kingdom of God belongs to such as these.” Luke 18:16z
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Jesus replied, “Very truly I tell you, no one can see the kingdom of God unless they are born again.” John 3:3
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Jesus answered, “Very truly I tell you, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless they are born of water and the Spirit.” John 3:5
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Jesus answered, “The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent.” John 6:29
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Then Jesus said, “Did I not tell you that if you believe, you will see the glory of God?” John 11:40
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But here is the most incredible time Jesus referred to God in the third person:
… Jesus cried out in a loud voice, … “My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?” Matthew 27:46y,y
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… Jesus cried out in a loud voice, … “My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?” Mark 15:34y,y
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How can anyone believe that what Jesus really meant was, “Myself, myself, why have I forsaken me?” Did Jesus really forsake himself? So, unless you claim that Jesus was delirious and that he accidentally read his line wrong, or he was lying, then based on this quote, you must conclude that Jesus was not God. In order for God to forsake Jesus, they must be different people.

The Holy Spirit

Now, before I give you my answer to the question, “Is Jesus God?”, I must make sure you understand some things about the Holy Spirit and the Shechinah.
The Holy Spirit is one of the three persons of the trilogy. This means that the Holy Spirit is God and God is the Holy Spirit. It is completely correct to refer to the Holy Spirit as “God”. And I know from the Bible and personal experience that the Holy Spirit dwells in me.
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The Shechinah

The Shechinah was God, in some sense. In I Chronicles 6, when the Shechinah entered the temple, the people realized that it was God entering the temple. And from that time until the temple was destroyed, people said that God was in the temple. But how can that be true? Isn’t God omnipresent, which means he is everywhere at all times. Yes, that’s what the Bible says:
“Do not I fill heaven and earth?” declares the Lord. Jeremiah 23:24z
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“The heavens, even the highest heaven, cannot contain you [God].” I Kings 8:27y
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Where can I go from your [Lord’s] Spirit? Where can I flee from your presence? If I go up to the heavens, you are there; if I make my bed in the depths, you are there. If I rise on the wings of the dawn, if I settle on the far side of the sea, even there your hand will guide me, your right hand will hold me fast. Psalm 139:7-10
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So God was not confined by the walls of the temple. But then what does it mean to say God was in the temple? Does it even make sense to say such a thing? You might also say that God is in the synagogue, or the church, or the mosque, all of which are true, but not in the same way that God was in the temple.

The Holy Spirit and the Shechinah

Consider my theory: The Shechinah and the Holy Spirit are one and the same thing. Whatever it was that dwelt in the Temple long ago now dwells in me. I draw this conclusion, because both the Shechinah and the Holy Spirit are God, in some sense. And God was in the temple, and God is in me, but in a different way from the way He is in other places.
So God was present in the space my body occupied before I received the Holy Spirit, but now He is in me more. His presence is somehow more intense. His spirit is stronger. If it makes any sense, He is more present. And I think it was exactly the same when God was in the temple. He was more present in that place than in other places.

Jesus and the Holy Spirit

So now, I’ll finally explain why I said, “So, is Jesus God? My answer is, to be brief, ‘Yes and no.’” I think I have made it clear why I think the answer is “no,” but why did I also say the answer is “yes?” Well, let’s look at a few other verses.
As soon as Jesus was baptized, he went up out of the water. At that moment heaven was opened, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove and alighting on him. Matthew 3:16
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… God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Spirit… Acts 10:38y
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For God was pleased to have all his fullness dwell in [the Son]… Colossians 1:19
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I’ve already said that I believe that the Holy Spirit is God. But why did Jesus receive the Holy Spirit at his baptism when he was an adult? If he was God, and the Holy Spirit is God, then God was indwelt with God, which seems unnecessary and pointless.
So I believe that Jesus was just a man (or a boy) until his baptism. At that point, he received the Holy Spirit. And then, when he was hanging on the cross, the Holy Spirit left him. That explains why he said, “My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?” God really did forsake him by removing His Holy Spirit from him.
So now I will present my answer to the question, “Is Jesus God?”, in a single sentence: Jesus was indwelt with the Holy Spirit. However, even though I believe that I too am indwelt with the Holy Spirit, there is a significant difference in the degree of closeness. Often, I ignore the Holy Spirit, and, when I do that, He usually leaves me alone to my own devices. The closeness of my relationship with the Holy Spirit varies over time from that kind of effective separation at one extreme to one time when the Holy Spirit actually took control of my body and moved it. And the closeness of Jesus’ relationship with the Holy Spirit also varied over time. But Jesus remained very tightly connected with the Holy Spirit most of the time. Sometimes Jesus and the Holy Spirit were so closely intertwined so that they were practically united as one thing. So, since he was so well aligned with God, you might say he was the same as God. This means you could point to him and say, “You are God,” and, in a sense, you might be essentially right.

Eternality

Jesus said that he existed before he was born.
“And now, Father, glorify me [Jesus] in your presence with the glory I had with you before the world began.” John 17:5
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“Very truly I tell you,” Jesus answered, "before Abraham was born, I am!” John 8:58
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“I [Jesus] am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End.” Revelation 22:13
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How do I respond to this argument?

The Gospel

If Jesus is not God, how does his sacrifice atone for all the sins of mankind? The answer is, “I don’t know.” However, Jewish tradition says that, on the day of atonement, the sacrifice of a single goat atones for all the sins of all the people of Israel for an entire year. It’s based on these verses:
“He shall then slaughter the goat for the sin offering for the people… In this way he will make atonement for the Most Holy Place because of the uncleanness and rebellion of the Israelites, whatever their sins have been… No one is to be in the tent of meeting from the time Aaron goes in to make atonement in the Most Holy Place until he comes out, having made atonement for himself, his household and the whole community of Israel.” Leviticus 16:15x,16x,17
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So, maybe the death of one exceptional human being can atone for the sins of all people across all time.
… the Lord has laid on him the iniquity of us all… my righteous servant will justify many… For he bore the sin of many… Isaiah 53:6z,11y,12y
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But again, my answer is, “I don’t know.”



References
KJV Holy Bible: King James Version. 2002. Barbour Publishing. Uhrichsville, Ohio. https://www.biblegateway.com/versions/King-James-Version-KJV-Bible/
MJ Ehrman, Bart D. 2005. Misquoting Jesus: The Story Behind Who Changed the Bible and Why. Harper San Francisco. 78-83.
NIV New International Version. 1984. International Bible Society. https://www.biblegateway.com/versions/New-International-Version-NIV-Bible/

Notes
x The quote includes the beginning of the verse but does not continue to the end of that verse.
y The quote does not start at the beginning of the verse, nor does it continue to the end of that verse.
z The quote does not start at the beginning of the verse, but it includes the end of the verse.